Isabella Wilkie

Other Events and Attributes:

• 1841 Census: 1841, St Giles Cripplegate, Middlesex, England; 1841 England Census
• 1841 Census: 1841, South Leith, Mid Lothian, Scotland; 1841 Scotland Census
• 1851 Census: 1851, St James, Westminster, Middlesex, England; 1851 England Census
• 1861 Census: 1861, St James, Westminster, Middlesex, England; 1861 England Census

Notes:

Isabella is recorded on the England 1841 Census, living with her Parents John & Barbara Wilkie; Age 4 years
1841 England Census- St Giles without Cripplegate Civil Parish, Cty - Middlesex, Reg District East London, Sub dist Cripplegate
John Wilkie, Age 25, Birth yr abt 1816, Male, Birthplace Scotland
Barbara Wilkie, Age 21
Isabella Wilkie, Age 4
Christiana Wilkie, Age 2
Robert Wilkie, Aged 8 mos.
Source: Ancestry.com 1841 England Census
Class HO107; Piece 727, Book 3, Civil Parish St Giles without Cripplegate, Cty Midlesex, Enum Dist 3, Folio 14, Page 22, Line 10, GSU roll 438831


Isabella is recorded on the Scotland 1841 Census, residing with Grandparents Forrest Hay & Mrs Hay - both 45 yrs
Source: Parish - South Leith; ED:6A, Pg 2, Line: 740, Roll: Year 1841 Date census taken June 6 1841
Forrest Hay - Age 45
Mrs Hay - Age 45
Isabella Hay - Age 20
Barbara Hay - Age 20 (? if this is Barbara Hay who married John Wilkie)
William Hay - Age 20
Martha Hay - Age 16
Forrestiana Hay - Age 15
Elizabeth Hay - Age 15
William Gray - Age 15
Isabella Wilkie - Age 3


Isabella is recorded on the England 1851 Census, living with her Parents John & Barbara Wilkie, Age 13 years, Day Scholar
1851 England Census - Civil Parish Westminster St James, Cty Middlesex, Reg Dist St James Westminster, Sub Reg - Berwick Street, 5, Hshld # 108
John Wilkie, Head, Birthpl - Fife, Scotland, Est Birthyr 1813, Age 38; Occupation Victualler
Barbara Wilkie, Wife, Age 34
Isabella Wilkie, Age 13
Faustina Wilkie * (Christina), Age 7
Forrest Wilkie, Age 2
William D. Wilkie Age 4 mos.
Source: Class HO107, Piece 1483, Folio 266, Pg 24, GSU roll - 87808; Anestry.com



Isabella is recorded on the England 1861 Census, living with her Mother Barbara & Sister Barbara, Daughter, Occupation - Seamstress
1861 England Census, Hackney, Middlesex, England, Reg Dist St James Westminster, Sug Reg - Berwick street
Barbara Wilkie, Head, Female, Age 43, Widow; Lodging House & Keeper Coffee Shop, birthpl - Scotland
Isabella Wilkie, Dtr, Age 23, Unmarried, Seamstress, birthpl Hackney Middlesex, Eng
Barbara Wilkie, Dtr, Age 16, Unmarried, Teacher, blrthpl Westminster, Middlesex, Eng
Source Citation: Class: RG9, Piece 60, Folio 9, Pg 6, GSU Roll: 542565
Location: House Number 3, Richmond Street, Westminster, London, Middlesex, England

Received notes from John & Elspeth Hutchinson, family researchers in Essex England and also ancestry.ca records for census material. Census verified by me hw

Marriage: Find my Past; City of Westminster Archives Centre; Westminster Marriages; Parish Marriages, England; Page 27 (2018)

Date: July 23 1861
Place: Church - in Parish of St James Westminster, County of Middlesex
Certificate #: 53
Groom: Joseph Mills, Full age, Bachelor, Baker, Residence Richmond St, Father: William Mills, Carpenter trade
Bride: Isabella Wilkie, Full age, Spinster, Residence Richmond St, Father: John Wilkie, Victualler, deceased
Married in the Church according to the Rites and Cermonies of the Established Church, by or after Banns by me: P. Snaith Duval, Curate
Signed: Joseph Mills & Isabella Wilkie
Witnesses: Mr Cooper Hay and Forrestina Wilkie

Found a Death on Free BMDs - as age 80 in 1923 - at Brentford - Middlesex
However further research revealed a Probate stating Isabella Wilkie of 15 Cedars road Chiswick Middlesex - Widow, died 20 Jan 1923 - Probate London 17 Mar to Robert Neaves Wilkie schoolmaster & John Wilkie engineer - effects £2658 os.5d Hw Jan 2012 thus more research required to determine if this is 'our' Isabella Wilkie Mills

Via names in William Dick Wilkie probate will from Sydney Australia, he mentions names of Robert McGregor, Barbara McGregor and great nephew William Dick McGregor
Possible connection may be one Barbara Mills, possible daughter of Joseph Mills & Isabella Wilkie - married to Robert McGregor, residing Greenock Renfrewshire Scotland who had a Son William Dick W. McGregor - married to Sadie Martin McIntosh hw 2019

1841 Census:
Age 2

1841 Census:
Age 3

1851 Census:
Daughter Age 13

1861 Census:
Daughter Age 23

Isabella married J. Mills [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation - Cellarman: 1841, St Giles without Cripplegate, Middlesex, England; 1841 England Census
• Residence: 1851, St James, Westminster, Middlesex, England; 1851 England Census

Notes:

Birth Source: Fiche, Dunfermline Library : 0027-0028-6025660

Also OPR Aberdour Births 1812 Dec 8
Born To Robert Wilkie Servant Banks & Christian Paul his spouse a son , John

One Wilkie researcher, Elspeth Hutchinson is related to John ( an Uncle) via marriage (Her husband - John Hutchinson's b 1944 lineage - his Father John Hutchinson 1908-2000, then Grandfather Arthur Hutchinson 1882-1952 md Kate Constance Brown, then Maternal Gt Grandparents Thomas William John Brown & Mary Ann Wilkie - her parents David Johnson - Johnston Wilkie & Eliza Rogers), his full name supposedly was John Robert Wilkie but I have not found that name on the OPR birth record, the IGI, census of 1841 & 1851, nor have I seen a copy of his death certificate.

Elspeth Hutchinson also gives the following information for marriage:
Source: London England Marriages & Banns - 1754-1921
Date of Marriage 09 October 1836 at St Mary Somerset, London, England to Barbara Hay, Parents unknown.

John & Barbara (Hay) Wilkie are enumerated on 1841 England Census- St Giles without Cripplegate Civil Parish, Cty - Middlesex, Reg District East London, Sub dist Cripplegate
John Wilkie, Age 25, Birth yr abt 1816, Male, Birthplace Scotland
Barbara Wilkie, Age 21
Isabella Wilkie, Age 4
Christiana Wilkie, Age 2
Robert Wilkie, Aged 8 mos.
Source: Ancestry.com 1841 England Census
Class HO107; Piece 727, Book 3, Civil Parish St Giles without Cripplegate, Cty Midlesex, Enum Dist 3, Folio 14, Page 22, Line 10, GSU roll 438831

1851 England Census - Civil Parish Westminster St James, Cty Middlesex, Reg Dist St James Westminster, Sub Reg - Berwick Street, 5, Hshld # 108
John Wilkie, Head, Birthpl - Fife, Scotland, Est Birthyr 1813, Age 38; Occupation Victualler
Barbara Wilkie, Wife, Age 34
Isabella Wilkie, Age 13
Faustina Wilkie * (Forrestina), Age 7
Forrest Wilkie, Age 2
William D. Wilkie Age 4 mos.
Source: Class HO107, Piece 1483, Folio 266, Pg 24, GSU roll - 87808; Anestry.com

From research on find my past site:
Wilkie, John Robert - death, volume 1c, Page 63, Location West London
This seems like a match a further verification on the info from Elspeth family tree on ancestry.ca
Our Wilkie English relatives are strongly suggesting that John Wilkie (as we Scottish/Cdn folk researchers know him) his full name was John Robert Wilkie - which following the Scottish naming pattern - John would be named after his Grandfather John and perhaps Robert after his Father Robert - all guesses at this time hw

(Research):
Birth Source: Fiche, Dunfermline Library : 0027-0028-6025660

Also OPR Aberdour Births 1812 Dec 8
Born To Robert Wilkie Servant Banks & Christian Paul his spouse a son , John

Elspeth Hutchinson also gives the following information for marriage:
Source: London England Marriages & Banns - 1754-1921
Date of Marriage 09 October 1836 at St Mary Somerset, London, England to Barbara Hay, Parents unknown.

John & Barbara (Hay) Wilkie are enumerated on 1841 England Census- St Giles without Cripplegate Civil Parish, Cty - Middlesex, Reg District East London, Sub dist Cripplegate
John Wilkie, Age 25, Birth yr abt 1816, Male, Birthplace Scotland
Barbara Wilkie, Age 21
Isabella Wilkie, Age 4
Christiana Wilkie, Age 2
Robert Wilkie, Aged 8 mos.
Source: Ancestry.com 1841 England Census
Class HO107; Piece 727, Book 3, Civil Parish St Giles without Cripplegate, Cty Midlesex, Enum Dist 3, Folio 14, Page 22, Line 10, GSU roll 438831

1851 England Census - Civil Parish Westminster St James, Cty Middlesex, Reg Dist St James Westminster, Sub Reg - Berwick Street, 5, Hshld # 108
John Wilkie, Head, Birthpl - Fife, Scotland, Est Birthyr 1813, Age 38; Occupation Victualler
Barbara Wilkie, Wife, Age 34
Isabella Wilkie, Age 13
Faustina Wilkie * (Christina), Age 7
Forrest Wilkie, Age 2
William D. Wilkie Age 4 mos.
Source: Class HO107, Piece 1483, Folio 266, Pg 24, GSU roll - 87808; Anestry.com

From research on find my past site:
Wilkie, John Robert - death, volume 1c, Page 63, Location West London
This seems like a match a further verification on the info from elspeth family tree on ancestry.ca

Occupation - Cellarman:
- Cellarman

John married Barbara Hay on 8 Oct 1836 in St Mary, Somerset, London, England. Barbara (daughter of Forrest Hay and Isabella Gray) was born about 1818 in , , , Scotland; died on 28 Dec 1870 in Westminster, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 1841, St Giles without Cripplegate, Middlesex, England; 1841 Census
• Residence: 1851, St James, Westminster, Middlesex, England; 1851 England Census
• 1861 Census: 1861, St James, Westminster, Middlesex, England; 1861 England Census
• Residence: 28 Dec 1870, London, Middlesex County, England
• Will: 16 Jan 1871; Index of Wills & Administration 1861-1941 England & Wales

Notes:

Elspeth Hutchinson also gives the following information for marriage:
Date of Marriage 09 October 1836 at St Mary Somerset, London, England to Barbara Hay, Parents unknown.

John & Barbara (Hay) Wilkie are enumerated on 1841 England Census- St Giles without Cripplegate Civil Parish, Cty - Middlesex, Reg District East London, Sub dist Cripplegate
John Wilkie, Age 25, Birth yr abt 1816, Male, Birthplace Scotland
Barbara Wilkie, Age 21
Isabella Wilkie, Age 4
Christiana Wilkie, Age 2
Robert Wilkie, Aged 8 mos.
Source: Ancestry.com 1841 England Census
Class HO107; Piece 727, Book 3, Civil Parish St Giles without Cripplegate, Cty Midlesex, Enum Dist 3, Folio 14, Page 22, Line 10, GSU roll 438831

1851 England Census - Civil Parish Westminster St James, Cty Middlesex, Reg Dist St James Westminster, Sub Reg - Berwick Street, 5, Hshld # 108
John Wilkie, Head, Birthpl - Fife, Scotland, Est Birthyr 1813, Age 38; Occupation Victualler
Barbara Wilkie, Wife, Age 34
Isabella Wilkie, Age 13
Faustina Wilkie * (Christina), Age 7
Forrest Wilkie, Age 2
William D. Wilkie Age 4 mos.
Source: Class HO107, Piece 1483, Folio 266, Pg 24, GSU roll - 87808; Anestry.com

1861 England Census, Hackney, Middlesex, England, Reg Dist St James Westminster, Sug Reg - Berwick street
Barbara Wilkie, Head, Female, Age 43, Widow
Isabella Wilkie, Dtr, Age 23
Barbara Wilkie, Dtr, Age 16
Source Citation: Class: RG9, Piece 60, Folio 9, Pg 6, GSU Roll: 542565

Death:
Deceased 1870, Westminster, Middlesex, England - Age 53 yrs
Source: England & Wales Free BMD Index 1837-1915

England & Wales National Probate Calendar, Index of Wills & Administrations - 1861-1941
Wilkie, Barbara - effects under £100 - 16 January Administration (with the Will) of the effects of Barbara Wilkie late of 5 Richmond-street Leicester square in the County Middlesex, Widow who died 28 December 1870 at 5 Richmond street was granted at the Principal Registry to Forrest Hay Wilkie of 5 Richmond street Builder, the Son and one of the Next of Kin.

(Research):

Elspeth Hutchinson also gives the following information for marriage:
Source: London England Marriages & Banns - 1754-1921
Date of Marriage 09 October 1836 at St Mary Somerset, London, England to Barbara Hay, Parents unknown.

John & Barbara (Hay) Wilkie are enumerated on 1841 England Census- St Giles without Cripplegate Civil Parish, Cty - Middlesex, Reg District East London, Sub dist Cripplegate
John Wilkie, Age 25, Birth yr abt 1816, Male, Birthplace Scotland
Barbara Wilkie, Age 21
Isabella Wilkie, Age 4
Christiana Wilkie, Age 2
Robert Wilkie, Aged 8 mos.
Source: Ancestry.com 1841 England Census
Class HO107; Piece 727, Book 3, Civil Parish St Giles without Cripplegate, Cty Midlesex, Enum Dist 3, Folio 14, Page 22, Line 10, GSU roll 438831

1851 England Census - Civil Parish Westminster St James, Cty Middlesex, Reg Dist St James Westminster, Sub Reg - Berwick Street, 5, Hshld # 108
John Wilkie, Head, Birthpl - Fife, Scotland, Est Birthyr 1813, Age 38; Occupation Victualler
Barbara Wilkie, Wife, Age 34
Isabella Wilkie, Age 13
Faustina Wilkie * (Christina), Age 7
Forrest Wilkie, Age 2
William D. Wilkie Age 4 mos.
Source: Class HO107, Piece 1483, Folio 266, Pg 24, GSU roll - 87808; Anestry.com


1861 England Census, Hackney, Middlesex, England, Reg Dist St James Westminster, Sug Reg - Berwick street
Barbara Wiulkie, Head, Female, Age 43, Widow
Isabella Wilkie, Dtr, Age 23
Barbara Wilkie, Dtr, Age 16
Source Citation: Class: RG9, Piece 60, Folio 9, Pg 6, GSU Roll: 542565

Death:
Dec. 1870, Westminster, Middlesex, England - Age 53 yrs
Source: England & Wales Free BMD Index 1837-1915

England & Wales National Probate Calendar, Index of Wills & Administrations - 1861-1941
Wilkie, Barbara - effects under £100 - 16 January Administration (with the Will) of the effects of Barbara Wilkie late of 5 Richmond-street Leicester square in the County Middlesex, Widow who died 28 December 1870 at 5 Richmond street was granted at the Principal Registry to Forrest Hay Wilkie of 5 Richmond street Builder, the Son and one of the Next of Kin.

1861 Census:
Widow - Age 43

Will:
England & Wales National Probate Calendar
Index of Wills & Administrations 1861-1941

Wilkie, Barbara (effects under £100.
16 January (with the Will) of the effects of Barbara Wilkie late of 5 Richmond Street Leicester Square in the Cty of Middlesex, Widow, who died 28 December 1870 at 5 Richmond Street was granted at the Principal Registry to Forrest Hay Wilkie of 5 Richmond Street Builder the Son and one of the Next of Kin

Notes:

Married:

London England - Marriages & Banns 1754-1921, Page 27
St Mary Somerset, London England
John Wilkie of this Parish, Bachelor and Barbara Hay of this Parish, Spinster were married in this Church by Banns with Confent (consent) of _______________ this ninth day of October in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty six - by me J. R. Barber AM Curate

This marriage was folemnized (solemnized) between us: John Wilkie (signed) Barbara Hay (signed)
in the Prefence (Presence) of : Wm. Miller & Charlotte M. ?? Johnston


Also FHL Film Number:374493, 942 B4HA V.59

Other Events and Attributes:

• Birth: 18 Jun 1786, Dalgetty, Fife, Scotland; Twin Brother David Wilkie
• Marriage: 1808, Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; Marriage Records
• Occupation: 1808

Notes:

Birth Source: LDS Indexing Project Batch #: C11422-4
Film # 1040127


Death Source: Copy of OPR 401 Deaths 1831 Page 36
Robert Wilkie Labourer at Burnsbrae Croftgarie, Age 44, Died 25 July 1831 and was interred on 28th curr in the New Church Yard

(Research):

Birth Source: LDS Indexing Project Batch #: C11422-4
Film # 1040127


Robert is a Twin - His Twin Brother is David Wilkie born 15 Jun 1786

Death Source: Copy of OPR 401 Deaths 1831 Page 36
Robert Wilkie Labourer at Burnsbrae Croftgarie, Age 44, Died 25 July 1831 and was interred on 28th curr in the New Church Yard

Marriage:
Oct 29, 1808 contracted to Robert Wilkie & Christian Paul, both in this parish after regular proclamation were married

Occupation:
Farm Servant at Bowprie Banks

Robert married Christian Paul on 29 Oct 1808 in Aberdour Parish, Fife, Scotland. Christian (daughter of *Charles Paul and Elisbeth Philp) was born on 16 Nov 1787 in Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; died on 5 Jan 1834 in Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; was buried in Aberdour, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptism: 23 Nov 1787, Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; Baptism
• Marriage: 29 Oct 1808, Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; Marriage record

Notes:

Birth: OPR Aberdour 401 Births
1787 Novbr 16 Born to Charles Paul and Elisbeth Philp his Spouse, a daughter baptized the 23d named Christian.

Death Source: OPR Aberdour Deaths 1834 , Pg 42
Christian Paul, Widow of Robt Wilkie, Farm Servant, Burnbrae, Age 46, Died 5th January and was interred on 8th currt in the New Church Yard

Christian (Paul) Wilkie's death left all of her children parentless, and I believe none of them were married at the time of her death. Her youngest Child, David Johnston Wilkie would be approximately 8 years old. At this time, I have no idea where David went for care and loving - 8 years old seems young even in these times to be on your own.

(Research):

Birth: OPR Aberdour 401 Births
1787 Novbr 16 Born to Charles Paul and Elisbeth Philp his Spouse, a daughter baptized the 23d named Christian.

Death Source: OPR Aberdour Deaths 1834 , Pg 42
Christian Paul, Widow of Robt Wilkie, Farm Servant, Burnbrae, Age 46, Died 5th January and was interred on 8th currt in the New Church Yard

Baptism:
It seems that Christian Paul's birth has occurred prior to the 'official' marriage date given in Parish records as Jan 31 1788 or 6 July 1788, thus explains why her birth not found on IGI or other sources, except the Old Parish Records and altho many other sources indicate this is probably our Christian Paul, I cannot state this as absolutely Fact

Notes:

Married:
Marriage Source: OPR Marriages 401, 1808 Page 175

Forrest married Isabella Gray in Unknown. Isabella was born about 1793 in Edinburgh, Mid Lothian, Scotland; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Birth Source; Christened 29 June 1746 at Kennoway; Parents John Wilkie and Margaret Dewar; C114344, # 2796

I am presuming for the time being a probability exists these may be the parents of my G G Great Grandfather Robert Wilkie. My reasons being that the dates jive and the naming pattern is familiar. Further descendants used the names of Dewar as a middle name for one of the children, suggesting that John Wilkie & Margaret Dewar may also be connected as poss. parents. Further research required to truly verify as fact however.

As of January 2011, many Wilkie researchers are still clinging to this strong probability - that John Wilkie & Janet Stevenson are indeed the Parents of Robert Wilkie married to Christian Paul,
Isabel Ann Wilkie married to James William Dick
John Wilkie & Christian Ross , then Helen Main
William Wilkie & Henrietta Aiken Philp
The sources being used are Old Parish Records, Aberdour Parish; IGI, various individual birth, marriage, death records kept by various family descendants and family stories or legends HW

However going back from John Wilkie married to Janet Stevenson, the possibilities and probabilities are many - some researchers choosing John Wilkie & Margaret Dewar, others William Wilkie & Margaret Donaldson !!! On and on goes the puzzle HW

John married Janet Stevenson on 13 Oct 1769 in Dalgetty, Fife, Scotland. Janet was born on 24 Apr 1749 in , , Fife, Scotland; was christened on 30 Apr 1749 in , Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

I am presuming for the time being a probability exists these may be the parents of my G G Great Grandfather Robert Wilkie. My reasons being that the dates jive and the naming pattern is familiar. Further descendants used the names of Dewar as a middle name for one of the children, suggesting that John Wilkie & Margaret Dewar may also be connected as poss. parents. Further research required to truly verify as fact however.

As of January 2011, many Wilkie researchers are still clinging to this strong probability - that John Wilkie & Janet Stevenson are indeed the Parents of Robert Wilkie married to Christian Paul,
Isabel Ann Wilkie married to James William Dick
John Wilkie & Christian Ross , then Helen Main
William Wilkie & Henrietta Aiken Philp
The sources being used are Old Parish Records, Aberdour Parish; IGI, various individual birth, marriage, death records kept by various family descendants and family stories or legends HW

Birth - Janet Stevenson
Female
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1749
Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1749
Baptism Place: Dunfermline Associate Session, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
FHL Film Number: 889488
Reference ID: 2:2VRXPLF

2nd Source: FHL Film Number 1040102
Reference ID: -2:16MGKDQ
Same info & Dates as above for Birth and Baptism

Notes:

Married:
Source: Reel M 114222, # 0447

Another Source: Marriages - FHL Film # 1040127
Name: Janet Stivenson
Female
Marriage Date: 13 Oct 1769
Marriage Place: Dalgety, Fife, Scotland
Spouse: John Wilkie
FHL Film Number: 1040127

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: 1790

Notes:

Occupation:
Shoemaker, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

*Charles married Elisbeth Philp on 6 Jul 1788 in Aberdour, Fife, Scotland. Elisbeth (daughter of J. Philp and Christian Lochtie) was born on 15 May 1767 in Dalgetty, Fife, Scotland; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Christened: 29 May 1767

Notes:

The spelling of the surname 'Philp' was later changed or evolved into 'Philip'. Source: Judy Philp

Christened:
Dalgety, Fife, Scotland

Notes:

Married:
Marriage Source:
OPR 401 Aberdour
1788 July 6th Chas Paul in the parish of Cleish and Elizth Philp, produced lines of irregular marriage dated Edinr 31st Jany 'placed here married' on 6 Jul 1788 at Aberdour, Fife, Scotland.