Elizabeth Wilkie

Other Events and Attributes:

• 1841 Census: 1841, Dalgetty, Fife, Scotland; 1841 Scotland Census
• Aberdour Poor Register: 1845, Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; Aberdour Poor Register
• 1851 Census: 1851, Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; 1851 Scotland Census

Notes:

OPR 401/Births 1809
"October 04, 1809 Born to Robert Wilkie, Farm Servant at Bowprie Banks and Christian Paul, his spouse a Daughter, bapt. 8 October named Elizabeth"

2nd source: Birth Source Fiche - Dunfermline Library - 0027-0028;6025660

Christened 8 October, 1809

Elizabeth was enumerated with John Philp on the census of 6 Jun 1841 at Bankhead, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland, as Elizabeth Wilkie. Elizabeth was listed as Supported by the parish, born in the county and aged 30. (ages were rounded down to the nearest 5).

She was in the household of John PHILP and (2nd) wife Catherine JOHNSTON at Bankhead in 1841/ They were living with John's son Robert PHILP, tenant farmer of Bankhead and Robert's wife Margaret LOCHTIE and family. (from Judy Philip - Australia)

She was enumerated on the 1851 census with Andrew Arment at Aberdour, Fife, Scotland. The entry listed one Elizabeth, 61, MIL, Right Parish Relief, Birthplace Aberdour. ( I, HW, think it is a misprint by enumerator and should be 41, and sister in law SIL)

Fife Family History Society Journal Vol 9, No 3, April 1997
Aberdour Poor Register, 1845 lists
WILKIE, ELIZABETH: aged 36, and native of parish, is an orphan, and resides with her grand-uncle, John Philp, at Bankhead, par of Dalgety; is fatous (sic) and otherwise very weakly, and hardly able to wak out of doors without aid of staff; has 4 brothers and 2 sisters, of whom 3 brothers & one sister are married with families, and the other brother & sister are in service; does not receive assistance from any of them; Entry: 4 June 1838 at 3/6 weekly; in 1847 -48 resided with her sister and brother-in-law, Andrew Arment, at Cupar-moor, and removed with them to Puddledub on North Balmule on 11 Nov 1848.


Death Registration: Source: 1858, Parish 401, Entry 17
At Beverkae, Parish of Aberdour, on 15 March 1858, Elizabeth Wilkie, Spinster, aged 52, daughter of Robert Wilkie, Ploughman deceased, and Christian Paull(sic). Cause of Death - Chronic Hydrocephalus (30 years), buried in New Church Yard, Aberdour as certified by Hugh Livingston, Gravedigger, the informant Andrew Arment, brother in law.

There certainly are discrepancies of Elizabeth's age from the Census records and Death Registration - however as noted earlier on the 1841 census - the ages were rounded down to the nearest 5; Brother in law Andrew Arment (Arnott) perhaps didn't know her actual birth date when he registered her death. hw

1841 Census:
Living in household of John Philp

Other Events and Attributes:

• Birth: 18 Jun 1786, Dalgetty, Fife, Scotland; Twin Brother David Wilkie
• Marriage: 1808, Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; Marriage Records
• Occupation: 1808

Notes:

Birth Source: LDS Indexing Project Batch #: C11422-4
Film # 1040127


Death Source: Copy of OPR 401 Deaths 1831 Page 36
Robert Wilkie Labourer at Burnsbrae Croftgarie, Age 44, Died 25 July 1831 and was interred on 28th curr in the New Church Yard

(Research):

Birth Source: LDS Indexing Project Batch #: C11422-4
Film # 1040127


Robert is a Twin - His Twin Brother is David Wilkie born 15 Jun 1786

Death Source: Copy of OPR 401 Deaths 1831 Page 36
Robert Wilkie Labourer at Burnsbrae Croftgarie, Age 44, Died 25 July 1831 and was interred on 28th curr in the New Church Yard

Marriage:
Oct 29, 1808 contracted to Robert Wilkie & Christian Paul, both in this parish after regular proclamation were married

Occupation:
Farm Servant at Bowprie Banks

Robert married Christian Paul on 29 Oct 1808 in Aberdour Parish, Fife, Scotland. Christian (daughter of *Charles Paul and Elisbeth Philp) was born on 16 Nov 1787 in Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; died on 5 Jan 1834 in Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; was buried in Aberdour, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptism: 23 Nov 1787, Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; Baptism
• Marriage: 29 Oct 1808, Aberdour, Fife, Scotland; Marriage record

Notes:

Birth: OPR Aberdour 401 Births
1787 Novbr 16 Born to Charles Paul and Elisbeth Philp his Spouse, a daughter baptized the 23d named Christian.

Death Source: OPR Aberdour Deaths 1834 , Pg 42
Christian Paul, Widow of Robt Wilkie, Farm Servant, Burnbrae, Age 46, Died 5th January and was interred on 8th currt in the New Church Yard

Christian (Paul) Wilkie's death left all of her children parentless, and I believe none of them were married at the time of her death. Her youngest Child, David Johnston Wilkie would be approximately 8 years old. At this time, I have no idea where David went for care and loving - 8 years old seems young even in these times to be on your own.

(Research):

Birth: OPR Aberdour 401 Births
1787 Novbr 16 Born to Charles Paul and Elisbeth Philp his Spouse, a daughter baptized the 23d named Christian.

Death Source: OPR Aberdour Deaths 1834 , Pg 42
Christian Paul, Widow of Robt Wilkie, Farm Servant, Burnbrae, Age 46, Died 5th January and was interred on 8th currt in the New Church Yard

Baptism:
It seems that Christian Paul's birth has occurred prior to the 'official' marriage date given in Parish records as Jan 31 1788 or 6 July 1788, thus explains why her birth not found on IGI or other sources, except the Old Parish Records and altho many other sources indicate this is probably our Christian Paul, I cannot state this as absolutely Fact

Notes:

Married:
Marriage Source: OPR Marriages 401, 1808 Page 175

Notes:

Birth Source; Christened 29 June 1746 at Kennoway; Parents John Wilkie and Margaret Dewar; C114344, # 2796

I am presuming for the time being a probability exists these may be the parents of my G G Great Grandfather Robert Wilkie. My reasons being that the dates jive and the naming pattern is familiar. Further descendants used the names of Dewar as a middle name for one of the children, suggesting that John Wilkie & Margaret Dewar may also be connected as poss. parents. Further research required to truly verify as fact however.

As of January 2011, many Wilkie researchers are still clinging to this strong probability - that John Wilkie & Janet Stevenson are indeed the Parents of Robert Wilkie married to Christian Paul,
Isabel Ann Wilkie married to James William Dick
John Wilkie & Christian Ross , then Helen Main
William Wilkie & Henrietta Aiken Philp
The sources being used are Old Parish Records, Aberdour Parish; IGI, various individual birth, marriage, death records kept by various family descendants and family stories or legends HW

However going back from John Wilkie married to Janet Stevenson, the possibilities and probabilities are many - some researchers choosing John Wilkie & Margaret Dewar, others William Wilkie & Margaret Donaldson !!! On and on goes the puzzle HW

John married Janet Stevenson on 13 Oct 1769 in Dalgetty, Fife, Scotland. Janet was born on 24 Apr 1749 in , , Fife, Scotland; was christened on 30 Apr 1749 in , Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

I am presuming for the time being a probability exists these may be the parents of my G G Great Grandfather Robert Wilkie. My reasons being that the dates jive and the naming pattern is familiar. Further descendants used the names of Dewar as a middle name for one of the children, suggesting that John Wilkie & Margaret Dewar may also be connected as poss. parents. Further research required to truly verify as fact however.

As of January 2011, many Wilkie researchers are still clinging to this strong probability - that John Wilkie & Janet Stevenson are indeed the Parents of Robert Wilkie married to Christian Paul,
Isabel Ann Wilkie married to James William Dick
John Wilkie & Christian Ross , then Helen Main
William Wilkie & Henrietta Aiken Philp
The sources being used are Old Parish Records, Aberdour Parish; IGI, various individual birth, marriage, death records kept by various family descendants and family stories or legends HW

Birth - Janet Stevenson
Female
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1749
Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1749
Baptism Place: Dunfermline Associate Session, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
FHL Film Number: 889488
Reference ID: 2:2VRXPLF

2nd Source: FHL Film Number 1040102
Reference ID: -2:16MGKDQ
Same info & Dates as above for Birth and Baptism

Notes:

Married:
Source: Reel M 114222, # 0447

Another Source: Marriages - FHL Film # 1040127
Name: Janet Stivenson
Female
Marriage Date: 13 Oct 1769
Marriage Place: Dalgety, Fife, Scotland
Spouse: John Wilkie
FHL Film Number: 1040127

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: 1790

Notes:

Occupation:
Shoemaker, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

*Charles married Elisbeth Philp on 6 Jul 1788 in Aberdour, Fife, Scotland. Elisbeth (daughter of J. Philp and Christian Lochtie) was born on 15 May 1767 in Dalgetty, Fife, Scotland; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Christened: 29 May 1767

Notes:

The spelling of the surname 'Philp' was later changed or evolved into 'Philip'. Source: Judy Philp

Christened:
Dalgety, Fife, Scotland

Notes:

Married:
Marriage Source:
OPR 401 Aberdour
1788 July 6th Chas Paul in the parish of Cleish and Elizth Philp, produced lines of irregular marriage dated Edinr 31st Jany 'placed here married' on 6 Jul 1788 at Aberdour, Fife, Scotland.

John married M. Dewar [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

*John married M. Wilson [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

J. married Christian Lochtie Christian (daughter of J. Lochtie and *Bessie Cuming) was born in 1743 in BurntIsland, Fife, Scotland; died on 20 Dec 1819 in Aberdour Parish, Fife, Scotland; was buried on 23 Dec 1819 in Auchtertool, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Source for Death:
OPR 401